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Locksmith Chislehurst said it still won't stop it as you can still overlift from the back of all the levers at the same time. I could however be wrong as there may be some rogue lock out there that does prevent overlifting, but I haven't seen one yet.

In the case of those horrible gold avocet locks they make picking really tricky. That’s the bit, but that’s the first time in my 40 odd years of locksmithing I have ever heard it called Conning?

Though I have found terminology varies somewhat depending on what part of the country you come from or even what land! I would guess conning to be American. Conning where I live means something totally different! Very Happy.

Incidentally the leading edge also is referred to the toe and the back edge the heel. (Where I come from anyway) Yeah - I have never seen conning either. It means two things to me - to trick (a con) or control from (the conning tower of a ship). I'm not sure where the author is from, there are a lot of Ross locks mentioned, so maybe.

I guess this kind of leads on to other questions about the insides of lever locks:

1. What are the differences between pivoting levers and vertical lift levers in terms of picking?

2. What is the difference between the pivot point being on the lock or hinge side? I find ones on the lock side require more force, which makes them harder to pick.

3. Some levers have open front pockets (like the Fortress). Is this just so there is less material so cheaper?

4. Narrow stumps seem to engage in anti-picks better than wide stumps with a notch cut. Is there much reasoning behind the width of the stump?

Thinner ones tend to be pressed steel (cheap) and thicker part of the casting. All good questions from the boys at the locksmith Chislehurst shop. This can be found out by picking said locks. You anwsered some yourself.

Anyone ever come across one of these with the old brass bolt, glove fit hardplate like secure fast and in green? I had a lock with snapped bolt thrower today, no gap in jam and mis ID`d a lock for the first time in 3 years.

Had to put a couple of holes in it. Checked all my ID manuals and haven’t come across one. Just changed an old red Union 2134 wrap around hardplate which i believed to be 2.5" but upon measuring against a 3g114 it was slightly larger but not quite 3"
   
Managed ok with some larger than usual escutcheon work to get me out of a pickle. First I’ve encountered in this size you find that with some of the older locks. I get it all the time around the locksmith Chislehurst shop area. That could get annoying.
 
Have to order some more jumbo escutcheons in for next time
The 114's have got their key hole in a slightly different position to most other locks.

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