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hmm North London locksmith I spoke too soon! I've got three of these Horizontal Sashlocks to change very soon, on a 'period property', and all look 'tight' and have 'painted over faceplates'. Sounds like a 'fun job'

The first thing to do is to Stanley knife around the face plate all the way to the wood. Then get a long pointed bar to place in the front plate screw hole and start to tease the face plate top and bottom. Also get a bar though the spindle and key way and jiggle out. Use plenty of wd40 in all holes. Once the forend is free then you can use this for leverage.
 
Just a thought, and it's more in the realms of "dream-on", but I thought I'd chip in with it. I have ordered a magnet for the Simplex bypass and this magnet has a 60kg pulling force. I wonder if the face plate is made of steel would two magnets give you the strength to jiggle the lock after clearing with a Stanley knife? (I'm just thinking of uses for me magnet).
Watch those magnets Den. You should have seen us lot on an emergency locksmith job trying to pull one off from a safe door which had pssport locked in it and the holiday flight was in three hours, we were hanging off it! No one would go near the thing after that.

There is a seriously nasty photo (on 'Black Bag' I believe), of a finger completely flattened by one of those magnets. And the irony with the Safe, was that the crucial part that needed to be moved, turned out not to be magnetic.
 
You guys at the North London locksmith near me shop weren't trying that magnet on a cheap B&Q safe were you? I tried on a customer’s (safe in an awkward place) a couple weeks ago and could not get the bloody thing off, luckily nobody was watching haha. I'd imagine all the good old locks will have fat brass faceplates though so I’d leave the magnet safely in the back of the van.
Hi guys been struggling with the fortress so made myself a pre lifter for the new style fortress today (not the one with the concealed curtain). The pre lifter is cut to the same height as a number 7 lever. I know the pre lifter is right because I can get a wire in all the way under the pack and I know it's the right height because removed all levers from lock except the 7 and it lifts to the correct height to throw the bolt.

The problem is once the wires in I can't lift anything I just doesn’t feel right, it almost feels like all levers are in antipick and are seized. I'm using the shortest LTC wire. Anybody got any ideas what's happening.
 
When you have the cover off, turn the curtain with your pre-lifter until it stops, then hold the wire as it would sit on your pre-lifter, and check what part of the lever it makes contact with as though you were trying to lift the lever?

It needs to make contact just a fraction past the belly of the lever in order to lift it. The height of the wire will depend on how deep you have prepared your blank to? Yes this helps cheers North London locksmith team.
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