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As an aside you lads at the West London locksmith, judging by the apparent age of the lock, I feel sure that it would not have holes to take door-knob bolts actually through the lock. In practice, it'd only require one hole, as the 'back-bolt' would be behind the lock case.
To simplify the matter, the Customer has now gone for a similar door knob set, that is just screwed to the door, with no bolts through the lock, but have also got screws into the spindle from the knobs. Sorry to ramble, but all this just got me wondering how on earth these locks are removed easily? Had the same problem at a dental practice in an old building and unfortunately never did resolve it. Originally wanted to remove to maybe service and make up keys and drill through to allow bolt thru handles. The doors were thinner than todays and there was only a wafer of wood on either side of the lock. I could see the wood coming away as i tried to ease the lock out. After discussion with the customer it was decided that any doors that needed to be locked would have an additional lock put on and we changed the handle type from a round round rose to a long face plate type that could bolt through above and below the lock.
It was impossible to screw the round rose type as there was no thickness of wood to screw into. So sorry I couldn't help OAH but would be handy if there is a way round this. I had this problem around the West London locksmith area on a horizontal case once, it had been fitted to a door were there was a key hole and the customer didn’t want the key hole , so he filled it in with wood filler and sanded it flat and painted over it. I couldn’t see it from outside, when eventually i got the lock out after much cursing i found out the filler was stopping the lock from pulling out, the guy had just shoved loads in both holes. Had all these problems several times on jobs. Simon, I think you are right when you say about them being fitted with zero tolerance all those years ago! I think as well that since older homes now have central heating, this has caused doors and woodwork to shrink a little, and dry out a lot more than they used to?
Thanks for that guys. At least I know it's a pretty-much normal situation to pick a lock then. Luckily the door I was working on, had enough wood either side of the lock, to take the screws from the screw-in knobs after a bit of messing about (as there were so many holes in the area behind the old knobs, from previous knob/handle installations). Still all sorted now, and Customer happy. Asked me to replace a two 3 lever Baldwin locks too while I was there, so can't be bad. If push, came to shove, and I really needed use my best lockpicking to remove one of these. I'm still thinking a homebrew slide-hammer may be the best option, but fortunately I don't see too many of these locks round the West London locksmith lock company area. | London | Archway | Barnes | Bethnal Green | Catford | Clapham | Finchley | Fulham | Hackney | Hammersmith | Hampstead | Hanwell | Holloway | Kensington | Ladbroke Grove | Leytonstone | Liverpool Street | London | Marble Arch | Muswell Hill | New Eltham | Notting Hill | Putney | Southwark | Streatham Hill | St Johns Wood | Stoke Newington | Thamesmead |Tooting | Twickenham | West Ealing | West Kensington | West Norwood | Whetstone | Willesden |
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